Which Way?

Can we know external objects as noumena or as phenomena. We know them first and mostly as phenomena, but, we can also know them as noumena. We can not see either as they are, for we are inauthentic liars and deceived perceivers, but as individuating, truth-loving persons with clear-eyed perceiving, thinking and feeling, we can see both as they are and as they are internconnected to other objects out there.